Descartes entertains the objection that i invented the idea of god by contrasting god with myself why couldn't i have invented the idea of god this way, according to descartes -he cannot get the idea of perfection (god) from imperfection (me): it is the other way around. René descartes: the mind-body distinction one of the deepest and most lasting legacies of descartes’ philosophy is his thesis that mind and body are really distinct—a thesis now called mind-body dualism he reaches this conclusion by arguing that the nature of the mind (that is, a thinking, non-extended thing) is completely different from that of the body (that is, an extended, non. Descartes, god and the evil spirit i have the idea of god as omnipotent, omniscient omnibenevolent, and the idea of an omnipotent, god exists descartes claims that it is not less absurd to think of god (that is, a supremely perfect being) lacking existence (that is, lacking a certain perfection), than to think of a hill. Descartes explains, therefore, that since he had the idea of god as an infinite being, the only thing with enough reality to cause this idea would therefore be this infinite being itself therefore, descartes believes he has found a second rational argument for god’s existence.
Descartes’ ontological argument the argument it is certain that i find the idea of god in me, that is to say, the idea of a supremely perfect being and i know no less clearly and distinctly that an actual and eternal existence belongs to his nature existence can no more be separated. At any rate, according to descartes, god is at such a level of reality (being infinite and totally perfect) that nothing could cause the idea of god except god himself arguably, the concept of infinity could have originated in something else that was infinite (say, an infinite sequence of numbers. In his meditations on first philosophy he attempted to provide philosophical evidence for the church and non-believers the existence of god and the idea that the mind is separate from the body (descartes 2.
Descartes' ontological argument, for those who may be unfamiliar, is one of his proofs for the existence of god it appears several times in his output, most notably in the fifth of his meditations on first philosophy and also in the philosophical investigations his ontological proof is supposed to. To bridge the gap between knowledge of his mind and knowledge of the world, descartes needs to argue for the existence of god e it seems at this point that descartes must argue for the existence of god solely from what he knows of his own existence and his own mind. In the meditations, descartes also argues that because we are finite, we cannot generate an idea of infinity, yet we have an idea of an infinite god, and thus god must exist to cause us to have that idea he also says that although we have no direct acquaintance with the material world, not even with our own bodies, but only with ideas that. This is sometimes overlooked by modern readers of descartes because so much of his work is interested in ideas such as the existence of god and the presence of a soul that obsessed other philosophers before him but unlike the medieval theologians, descartes did not take the existence of god or the soul for granted.
Rene descartes 1639 meditations on first philosophy the idea of god (that is, of a supremely perfect being) is certainly one that i find within me, just as i find the ideas of shapes and numbers and i understand from this idea that it belongs to god’s nature that he always exists this understanding is just as clear and distinct as what. The idea, to be developed below, is that god has no reasons, prior to his willings, to do anything so god cannot recognize any reasons prior to his willings to will this or that descartes also writes about what appears to be a type of liberty distinct from both forms of liberty of indifference. At least initially, i do not think descartes would accept my claim that the meditator’s idea of ipcr has infinite objective reality and is entitled to replace his argument’s notion of god in the next section, i will address what i believe would be his most likely objection to my argument. Descartes defined his proof by nature of evolution of the times, i say that the fact that we know who we are as a species, where we need to go to survive as a species, what we need to do as people, our dreams, innovations, idea’s and what keeps us from evolving in nature, yet with free will we lie dormant in peace, progressive in war, and.
A god, because we are so taught in the holy scriptures, and, on the other hand, that we must believe the holy scriptures because they come from god (the reason of this is, that, faith being a gift of god, he who rene descartes meditations on first philosophy. Descartes's fifth meditation argument for god's existence relies on an untenable notion that existence is a perfection and that it can be predicated of god i shall first explain what descartes's argument for god's existence is, and then present his argument in propositional form. Descartes’s metaphysics is rationalist, based on the postulation of innate ideas of mind, matter, and god, but his physics and physiology, based on sensory experience, are mechanistic and empiricist.
Descartes' ontological argument goes as follows: (1) our idea of god is of a perfect being, (2) it is more perfect to exist than not to exist, (3) therefore, god must exist the second argument that descartes gives for this conclusion is far more complex. Descartes argued that god’s existence can be deduced from his nature, just as geometric ideas can be deduced from the nature of shapes—he used the deduction of the sizes of angles in a triangle as an example he suggested that the concept of god is that of a supremely perfect being, holding all perfections. He used his own variations of the causal argument, the ontological argument and the cosmological argument for the existence of god in his meditations (see the section on philosophy of religion), and the existence of god played a major role in his validation of reason and in other parts of descartes’ system. Since the idea of god is completely clear and distinct and contains more presentational reality than any other idea, no idea is truer per se and none less open to the suspicion of falsity in meditation iii, descartes argues that his idea of god could not have come from him, and so god must exist.
Objections and replies rené descartes third objections (hobbes) something corporeal descartes assumes that it isn’t, but he doesn’t prove this. Since the idea of god cannot have originated in himself, he concludes that god must be the cause of this idea and must therefore necessarily exist the meditator counters the argument that he might conceive of an infinite being through negation, that is, through conceiving of it in contrast to his own finite being. Descartes’ idea of god will be discussed momentarily, but let’s consider his claim that the mind is better known than the body this is the main point of the wax example found in the second meditation.